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This is the general purpose talk page for the Wikimania 2018 website. Please do not use sub-page talk pages unless really necessary as probably no-one will be watching them. Pbsouthwood (talk) 11:06, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

This discussion page is specifically for planning the website. For more general commentary and questions use Talk:Wikimania 2018/Cape Town

T-shirts[edit source]

T-shirt sizes will be specified after the supplier/printer has been selected and we have samples of each size to take actual measurements. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 12:52, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Volunteers[edit source]

Do we want a link for a page for volunteers like Wikimania 2017?

(Yes - needed for new layout) Yes check.svg Done

Sponsors[edit source]

Do we want a sponsors page?

(yes done by David)Yes check.svg Done

Scholarships[edit source]

Where will this go? Register and attend or Participants? both are plausible. Or a separate page?

Goes on /Attend Yes check.svg Done

Intro video:[edit source]

Link can go on home page

  • Needs to be ready for Wikmania Montreal.
  • Wesgrow can help with stock footage.
  • Douglas can capture video footage, including with drone. Maybe some aerial shots from Jean Tresfon
  • Can get help from Victor Grigas.

Liaison for non-binary issues[edit source]

  • We need someone to advise. Any suggestions?

Everything must be easy to find[edit source]

  • Some links will take you away from this set of pages, but everything must leave it easy to get back.
  • Minimum path length vs uncluttered pages. I am trying to achieve this on a main page with 5 main branches by using collapsible boxes and transcluded subpages. It may work. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 13:39, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Contacts page[edit source]

  • Core team and theme team and WMF team contact links. (started)
  • Explanation of who to contact for what.
  • Put this on home page? - On home page until further notice.

Organogram for Wikimania?[edit source]

  • Point at WMSA: Douglas
    • Core team
      • Financial/books/records
      • Website
        • Consultation with past Wikimania organisers
      • P.R.
        • Press liaison
      • Volunteer committee
      • Scholarships?
      • Hackathon comittee?
      • Venue co-ordinator
        • Internet connectivity?
      • Sponsorship (SA)
    • Theme team
  • Point at WMF: Ellie
    • Paid organiser in SA
      • Venue
      • Feeding
      • Internet connectivity?
    • Other WMF staff
    • Scholarships?

Who selects/approves submissions for events?

Collapsible boxes[edit source]

Would be good if they can have a collapse (hide) button at the bottom as well as at the top · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:02, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

This has been requested at Template talk:Collapse-mobile, with a few other refinements. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 13:36, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Feedback[edit source]

We want feedback from interested and affected parties about what went well and what could be improved, with suggestions. We are trying to set up a re-usable system, so fixing broken stuff is important.· · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:26, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Links[edit source]

Presentations/Submissions[edit source]

  • What topics are appropriate for Wikimania presentations? Is there a specific theme for 2018? · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 13:59, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Press/media[edit source]

  • Press contact person contact details. Who will this be?
  • Alternatives?

Guidebook[edit source]

Useful icons[edit source]

User digest Lecture YesY
Critial issues
Community village
Hackathon Under construction - hackathon YesY
Contributors Contributors ?
Involved in governance and policies
Infopoint Information YesY
Involved in outreach
Researchers Research YesY
Technicians Technical YesY
Wikimania volunteers
Wikimedia Wikimedia YesY

Some of these are not intuitive - we need better icons.

Learning patterns - Visas[edit source]

C5 power cables[edit source] Prices from R35.00 as of 21-07-2017

Plug adaptors[edit source]

Prepaid sim cards[edit source]

  • Prices and places to buy. Airtime and data. Vendors near accommodation and near venue.
  • Probably available at airport, Vodacom, Cell-C, others?

Social Media Communication[edit source]

Is the Social Media Communication (Viber, Facebook Messenger, Whatsapp,...., others) allowed? or will it be available there using Wifi Connection or Mobail Data Connection? (Sarbast.T.Hameed (talk) 07:40, 5 March 2018 (UTC))

Wrong Banner link on en-wiki Main page[edit source]

A banner appeared on the main page of English Wikipedia today, announcing that scholarships for Wikimania 2018 are now open, and linking to Unfortunately that page has not been updated, and contains information on the 2017 Montreal event. I don't know where best to report this, and hope someone is monitoring this page and can take action. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:38, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

What about the Water situation?[edit source]

Presumably the orignaisers of Wikimania have taken into account the water situation in Cape Town? 16:47, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

See Water shortage, which is also listed in the sidebar. Wittylama (talk) 18:59, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

DAYS TO WIKIMANIA 2018[edit source]

why there is a difference in the DAYS TO WIKIMANIA 2018 remaining in the deferent section of the Page as below?

  • Home.=135
  • Call for submissions.=154
  • volunteer.=138
  • Sponsors.=135
  • Attend.=137

(Till Today Date) (Sarbast.T.Hameed (talk) 13:23, 5 March 2018 (UTC))

Hi Sarbast.T.Hameed, have you tried to clear your web cache? Then it should work and you should see the corrrect number. --Brackenheim (talk) 18:06, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi Brackenheim ... it is the same, I cleared the cache of my web browser several times and now it is as below!! :
  • Home.=135
  • Call for submissions.=134
  • volunteer.=135
  • Sponsors.=135
  • Attend.=137

(Sarbast.T.Hameed (talk) 20:00, 6 March 2018 (UTC))

OK Now it is Done and all the dates are equal to 134 Day... (Sarbast.T.Hameed (talk) 21:45, 6 March 2018 (UTC))
Really confusing ... Another idea for the next time: Click on "edit" and then save the page without changing anything. Then the current number should appear. --Brackenheim (talk) 08:58, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
I am now getting 133 for some and 134 for others It may be because the heading is transcluded along with the counter, so the counter is not updating when the page into which it is transcluded is updated, only when the heading page itself is updated. I have no idea how this could be fixed, unless there is an instruction available to update the header pages before tranclusion. Pbsouthwood (talk) 10:31, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Attendees from Nepal and Bangladesh[edit source]

Hello. A fellow Wikimedian from Nepal has reached out to me stating that visitors from there need to submit their visa applications from Colombo, Sri Lanka. I've did a bit of looking around, and it does seem like the case. Could someone familiar with the SA consular process confirm as well? I too will call the local High Commission on Monday to confirm this.

If that is the case, and depending on how many participants we have from countries that need to apply from Sri Lanka, I'd be happy to assist in consolidating the applications and submitting from Colombo, as I am currently living here. Kind regards, Rehman 12:41, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi again. Just managed to reach the High Commission this afternoon. They confirmed that such applications (together with passports) can now be directly couriered to the High Commission in Colombo. For more information, you can also directly reach them via +94773633334. FYI, User:Biplab Anand. Cheers, Rehman 07:20, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
User:Rehman Thanks for your help and information. I will be in touch for more help. Thanks--Biplab Anand (talk) 07:28, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Registration[edit source]

please assign for translation[edit source]

Esp Registration page. Will you please let translators help spread words in local languages? Very important to anybody looking for details. --Omotecho (talk) 10:34, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Social events[edit source]

Hi. I've noticed that there is a scuba diving charter planned as a post-conference social event. Just wondering if there are any other event(s) planned for the average Joe? I'm sure many of you also gets amazing safaris in mind when you hear South Africa :-) Do you think one could be arranged? A random google search did show up many options: 1 2. Cheers, 06:14, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Maybe. The scuba charter was a specific request, and fits into what I do, so I took it on. I have no knowledge or interest in tour organisation, but maybe someone else does, so if a specific suggestion is made, maybe someone will volunteer to organise, or suggest an operator who could handle it. Otherwise anyone is free to make plans and bookings for themselves or a group. The minimum requirement is at least one conference attendee indicating that they would book for the event. A larger group would probably be necessary to get it to happen. This does not permit touting by tour operators, the request must come from a Wikimedian in good standing who will be attending the conference, and some evidence may be required. Cheers, Pbsouthwood (talk) 06:36, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
I heard from a friend who visited the Cape twice, that the current arount that point is very strong and you may want to advice inexperienced divers not to join. Ciell (talk) 08:42, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Ciell,There are a large number of dive sites arount the Cape Peninsula (abour 250), and I have dived most of them, some of them several times. None of them have a very strong current. Occasionally some of them have a moderate current, usually there is a very slight current or none that you can notice, and in shallow water when the swell is high there can be strong surge and breaking waves, as is the case anywhere in the world when there are large waves. When the waves are large we dive somewhere else or we don't dive. I don't know where you get your information, but if you can be more specific as to exactly where you are taking about I can be more specific about the conditions likeley to be found there. The places I am considering for the dive charter may have a light surface current, but the currents are not known to have ever been a probem to divers who would generally be considered competent to dive there. in conditions we would normally consider suitable for diving. There is generally not enough current for drift diving. For details about the conditions at dive sites around Cape Town, please refer to Wikivoyage:Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay. If you have any specific questions, ask me there of here. Pbsouthwood (talk) 19:49, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
+1. A safari outside Cape Town sounds like a fantastic idea! Rehman 09:18, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
What do you consider a safari? Pbsouthwood (talk) 16:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Here in Sri Lanka, a safari usually means a trip on a vehicle (usually an open-top truck/jeep) through a nature reserve/park. Basically a photo-op or sit-and-watch type event. Rehman 06:24, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Cape Point nature reserve is nearby, but there is nowhere nearby for a big five style safari, and anyone can take a walk or the cableway up the mountain if the weather is good.Pbsouthwood (talk) 16:37, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
I'd love a decent game-drive in an NP, but that means staying in a lodge in/at an NP, getting up early and paying a bit more. It's a once in a lifetime experience though!
And the winter time is the perfect time for a whale-watching tour. Sometimes you can see them from the coast even, keep you eye out for them! Ciell (talk) 08:42, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Agree. A drive through a South African national park is indeed a once-in-a-lifetime experience! If anyone's planning one, I'd love to join! :-) Rehman 11:03, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Whale watching is possible, and we fairly often see whales from the boat on dive trips, usually a few hundres metres away, but sometimes closer.
National parks do not all have big game. Tha Table Mountain National Park is more a reserve for the fynbos biome, with a few moderate sizeds pecies of animals, of which the ones most likely to be seen are baboons. To see big game you would need to travel several hundred km from Cape Town. That is probably beyond the capacity of the Wikimania comittee, and should be done through a travel agent. Pbsouthwood (talk) 19:49, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Hiking[edit source]

Would anyone be interested in organising some group hiking around Table Mountain, or know of good trailheads or the like? There also seem to be some very interesting-looking cliffs and things... --Isarra (talk) 19:21, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

I mean, like, before or after the conference itself. More social things! Isarra (talk) 19:22, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Table Mountain is considered a decent hike, that's why there is a cable-kart up and down as well, haha. Lion's head is nearby as well and recommended to me by a friend. Ciell (talk) 08:44, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
There are hiking trails on Table Mountain and Lions Head. An enthusiat could get to some of them on foot from the hotel. It is recommended to hike in groups for security, as there have been occasional robberies and assaults on lone hikers. I don't know them very well as I live about 50km away and if I want to walk on the mountanside I can go to the Helderberg nature reserve which is walking disatance from where I live. Pbsouthwood (talk) 19:58, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
I would be potentially interested in hiking in a group around Cape Town :-) Nonoxb (talk) 15:07, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
I am also interested. I am adding a few days to my stay on my own expense. --Papuass (talk) 18:50, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
I'm interested too. I'll be around till 25th on my own, so definitely looking out for things to do. Rehman 03:12, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
@Rehman: I will also be there till 25th, let's arrange something. --Papuass (talk) 12:54, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
@Papuass: Great! :-) Rehman 05:19, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Updates on registration[edit source]


The "Registration" page originally said that registration would be open in early april; then it said mid-april, and now it doesn't say anything anymore. I searched for the Eventbrite page on Google, but didn't find anything either. Does someone have any updates on this? Thanks :-) Nonoxb (talk) 15:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

@EYoung (WMF):, I think this is your turf. Cheers, Pbsouthwood (talk) 07:22, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

I am going to need an official letter from the Wikimedia foundation to support my visa application. When will this be handed out? Thanks Sidewinder (talk) 08:00, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

I will try to find out from @EYoung (WMF): where you and others should apply. Cheers, Pbsouthwood (talk) 15:56, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikimania Takes...?[edit source]

Ahoy there! Will there be any preconference tours organised this time, as with previous Wikimanias? 10:05, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm also interested :-) Nonoxb (talk) 11:28, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
me too!! :D MassiveEartha (talk) 01:46, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

"Purge" and UTCLiveClock buttons missing[edit source]

Right now, I have to enter ?action=purge or &action=purge to refresh or clear cache of every page, such as the "Submissions" page. I don't know why "Purge" and "UTCLiveClock" gadgets do not apply to the website. However, auto-purge or auto-refresh seems to be not working or something. Moreover, I have to add more in the URL address every time I visit a page. --George Ho (talk) 03:09, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

WMF staff are doing things to the site. I have no idea what the intentions are or what the side effects may be. So it goes. Pbsouthwood (talk) 07:57, 10 May 2018 (UTC)